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, you're no jack kennedy. >> reporter: tonight, in a heated exchange about taxes, an echo of that moment. >> the only way you can find $5 trillion in loopholes, is cut the morning deduction for middle class people. cut the health care deduction for middle class people. take away their ability to get a tax break to send their kids to college. that's why they are -- >> is he wrong about that? >> he is wrong about that. it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> a couple of times. >> jack kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan -- >> reporter: at the end, each man summed up and both chose to attack. >> my friend says that 30% of the american people are takers. romney points out 47% of the people won't take responsibility. he's talking about my mother and father. talking about the places i grew up, my neighbors. he's talking about, he's talking about the people that built this country. all they're looking for is an even shot. >> president obama, he had his chance. he made his choices. this is not what a real recovery looks like. you deserve better. mitt r
>> it's never been done before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> ronald reagan. >> you are no jack kennedy, 24 years later. joe biden turned up the intensity after a lackluster debate performance at the top of the ticket. good morning. i'm willie geist and this is "way too early." in danville, kentucky, they were pressed from the moderator. some of the shorpest points of contrast came on the subject of iran's nuclear program and the two sides conflicting plans for medicare. the vice president made an effort to be engaged even when congressman ryan had the floor. unlike president obama, the vice president kept his eyes on his opponent smiling and shaking his head as the republican candidate attacked. >>> the hot topic of libya and the deadly assault in benghazi that killed four americans including the u.s. ambassador. president obama's deputy campaign manager suggested the only reason the obama's handling of the attack is because the republicans are talking about it on the campaign trail. she said that was reckless and irresponsib irresponsible.
't -- they are playing politics all the time. >> yeah. and another favorite moment for me, dana, was the jack kennedy moment when ryan struggles to defend romney's tax plan. >> how is that? >> you can cut tax rates by 20% and still preserve these preferences for middle class workers. >> not mathematically possible. >> it has never been done before. >> it has been done a couple times before. >> jack kennedy -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> done exactly right and is absurd. >> you know, i think the republicans that i saw during the debate and after were saying, that was rude he wasn't allowing him to talk? you know, what's wrong with that? i like the idea that he was doing the constant interjex. it was getting under ryan's skin. it was rattling him. what's wrong with the grimmaces, the constant heckling? the policies were one thing and i think getting in his face was just the right medicine last night. >> now, let me ask the big picture political question, dana, and i want margie to weigh in as well. the democratic base for mr. b biden or did it just help ril up the base? >> it did clearly energyi
of the night was when he asked ryan now you are jack kennedy. that lead to more than 7,000 tweets per minute. we will have more on the debates coming up on bill press and on our current news updates. join us in our chat room current.com/bill press. see you there. [ dennis' voice ] i bet he's got an allstate agent. they can save you up to 30% more by bundling your policies. well his dog's stupid. [ dennis' voice ] poodles are one of the world's smartest breeds. are you in good hands? [ ryan ] it doesn't get any better than endless shrimp at red lobster. you can mix and match all day! [ male announcer ] don't miss red lobster's endless shrimp just $14.99! try as much as you like, any way you like! like parmesan crusted shrimp. hurry in, offer ends soon! i'm ryan isabell and i see food differently. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio, and on current tv this is the "bill press show." >> bill: for the nats and for the democrats, a big night last night. hey, what do you say, everybody? guess what? it's friday. ♪ hallelujah ♪ >> b
reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> plenty of heat. biden showed more emotion tonight and personality but i think who you believe won the debate? probably depend on your political point of view unless you include abc martha. she was clearly the best moderator so far. fichlt thanks. social media came alive tonight as well as the two candidates duke it out. twitter says the debate generated 3 and half million tweet. biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the play offs comes to an end. >> couldn't pull off a win in the game 5 of the series and larry is here now. >> kind of a bumper. especially after last night the thrilling
was full of attacks. >> it has been done a couple of times. >> has never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the democrats wanted and ryan brought seriousness the republicans needed. >> reporter: romney and ryan are campaigning to the in ohio. biden is hitting the trail in wisconsin with anticipation building for the second
. >> has never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the democrats wanted and ryan brought seriousness the republicans needed. >> reporter: romney and ryan are campaigning to the in ohio. biden is hitting the trail in wisconsin with anticipation building for the second presidential debate next week. broken did hit, abc n
kennedy got a surprise mention with joe biden's sarcastic outburst, now you're jack kennedy sparking the tweets at 58,000 per minute. the debate continued. massive questions on a crucial issue. luckily, brian williams was able to clear up the issue about the lapel pins. >> people were asking, not only is the flag larger, what is the symbol in the middle of field stripes. it's the u.s. secret service pin. they hand it out to friends and protectees. >> before the debate, "time" magazine released these photos. it triggered what was called a dumbbell debate. >>> a search on google images with the phrase completely wrong brings up mitt romney. google says there's no partisan politics here. he used the phrase about his 47% comments. >>> california congressman was debating when things got testy. the rhetoric heated up and sherman got physical. before things escalated into a wrestling match, a police officer stepped in and the debate wrapped up with no injuries. that's your morning dish of scrambled politics. here is your "first look" of how wall street is going to close. the dow closed down
times. >> it has never -- >> ja kennedy increased -- >> now your jack kennedy? folks, use your common sense. who do you trust on this? they're saying no, they're holding hostage the middle class tax cut to the super wealthy. just get out of the way. but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsible responsible for their own lives. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. have you ever seen me rope-a-dope. ♪ how you like me now ♪ how like me now ♪ how you like me now >> he came, he saw, and he told the truth, and the great pretender, paul ryan, was exposed after a no holds barred full out slugfest of a debate with vice president joe biden last night. and for democrats across the country, it is tgi biden, a man who brought the fight to congressman ryan with a huge heart and lethal honesty on everything from medicare to taxes, abortion, middle class opportunity, and foreign policy. and this afternoon the vice preside
a couple of times. >> it's never been done before. >> jack kennedy-- ronald reagan. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> and he got it wrong. george w. bush lowered rates and when they did the treasury went up. and the other hot topic was libya. >> this benghazi issue would have been a tragedy in and of itself, unfortunately it's indicative of a broader problem. what we're watching on our tv screens is the unravelling of the obama foreign policy which is making the war more chaotic and us less safe. >> joe biden says the administration did not know about the request for more security in libya, but a day earlier the state department official in sworn statement said more security had been requested and denied. and when asked about it, president obama said, quote, i didn -- and after that, said i didn't catch that exchange. and the opening bell on wall street. here we go. >> stocks will open pretty flat this morning, a day after the debate. we've got one news item, a number from the government in the background here, it's the producer price index up. 1.1%, month over month and that's a big inc
kennedy. i knew jack kennedy. jack kennedy was a friend of mine. senator, you're no jack kennedy. >> part of why the stakes feel so high tonight is that incumbent presidents almost always lose to the candidate challenging them in their first debate. the exception to that is bill clinton beating dole in their first debate in '96. other than that every time the first debate has been a killer for the incokucumbent president. president carter lost to ronald reagan, president reagan lost his first debate to robert mondale. president bush lost his first debate to bill clinton and ross perot. next president bush lost his first debate to john kerry. so when president obama lost his first debate last week to his challenger, mitt romney, that outcome was totally in keeping with the sad, sad incumbent president tradition of getting creamed in their first debate. but what hat means for tonight is that the democrats are looking for a solid performance to try to stop the republican momentum, to try to quash the poll imbalance that romney and ryan have been enjoying since the debate last week even if st
. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times before. jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> mr. vice president -- i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for the lost round, but i think people will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> the rnc says the score was 82 from biden and just a handful from ryan. good to see both of you. i like the way you played together. i think it sort of captured a part of it. republicans were bouncing on this. they said it showed that joe biden was unhinged. in our focus group, it did not go over well. but democrats seemed to be pretty happy about the joe biden they saw. >> that's right, erin. and clearly coming out of last week, democrats, let's just say, were completely demoralized from the first presidential debate. i think what joe biden was doing was really channelling the extra frustration that democrats felt every time that president obama did not take advantage of the wonderful opportunities and joe biden was making sure that he was going to take advantage and probably overly
. and it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times. jack kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> and that is what most americans care about. and the former chairman of the council of economic advisors. nice to see you, austin. >> thank you, kbreta. >> greta: at the time tel me. were you surprised unemployment rate went down to 7.8%? is that a surprise. >> yes. it was a, if you look at data looks like it was an outlier there is a lot of variables on the numbers and it's bigger than i thought it would be. >> greta: is a number you're confident of? though you're surprised?. >> i would probably say some component of statistics. i won't be surprise fd it ticks up a little bit next month. the survey of people which is what the unemployment rate comes from has a job creation margin of error plus or minus 400,000 per month. anyone as i say, every month take a three-month average if you want to know how the job market is doing. >> greta: let me ask you about a three month average. this is what i said tonight. he said job growth in slept
never been didn't before. >> robbed reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. >>onald reagan. ronald reagan. >> plenty of heat. biden showedt and more emotion tonighd personality but i think who you believe won the debate? probably depend on your political point of view unless you include abc martha. she was clearly the best moderator so far. fichlt thanks. social media came alive tonight as well as the two candidates duke it out. twitter says the debate generated 3 and half million tweet. biden now you are jack kennedy line generated 58,000. the minute it was by far the most tweeted remark. over all though the debate didn't create as much traffic as the presidential one 10.3 million tweet. >> president obama and mitt romney meet in their second doe bait next tuesday in new york this one will be town hall meeting format. we'll carry it live starting at 6:00 p.m. >>> all right. you may know heart break in oakland tonight. unfortunately the a's incredible run in the play offs comes to an end. >> couldn't pull off a win in the game 5 of the series and larry is here now. >> kind of a b
are ronald reagan. >> jack kennedy -- >> jack kennedy coming up in these debates. both men covered several elections. biden came off as rude he has never seen anything like this from any other candidate. >> what you saw while paul ryan was talking was smirking, laughing, smiling, mugging, by the vice president. and my sense about it was that it was so xheling people couldn't see the keep their eye off of it. i thought it was unattractive and rude and i have a feeling it will come across as rude. it looks like a cranky old man to some extent debating a polite young man. >> i think i have watched almost every presidential and vice presidential debate since the first four kennedy nixon debates since 1960 thinking back over the next few minutes i don't believe i have ever seen a debate when one participant was as openly disrespectful as the other as biden was to paul ryan. you can talk about the smirks the head shaking, it was con tenuous and disrespectful. >> that lead us to our brew on this question of the day. what did you think of the debate? send your comments via tweet. tweet them to us
of times. >> it has never been done before. >> ronald reagan and jack kennedy -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> the vice president almost got dismissive when he tried to question the administration's business in afghanistan. >> at times joe biden used answers like marlakey over answers paul ryan gave. the romney/ryan ticket has been saying the united states has been pulling too many troops out of afghanistan leave doing small of force to defend itself in the eastern part of that country. now again here biden staying on the attack questioning ryan's understanding of the obama administration's policy to train afghan troops to take over the fight against the taliban. >> it's the most dangerous place in the world. >> that's why we don't want to send fewer -- >> that's why we should send americans in to do the job. you'd rather americans >> no. we are already sending americans to do the job but fewer of them. >> that's right. we're sending in more afghans to do the job, afghans to do the job. >> you know, this post debate spin has already gone into high gear tonight. republicans sending out doze
before. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: biden went right at ryan over mitt romney's controversial comments calling 47% of americans who don't pay income taxes irresponsible. >> the idea, if you heard that, that little sol little quill on 47%, you think he just made a mistake, then i got a bridge to sell you. >> i think the vice president very well knows sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporter: when biden wasn't talking, he seemed oddly amused. by our count -- smiling or breaking out in laughter 92 separate times. expressive, often interrupting and occasionally personal. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> well, it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it -- it is. we irish call it malarkey. >> thanks for the translation. >> reporter: and ryan needled ryan over the president's performance in last week's debate. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for l
done a couple of times. jack kennedy, ronald reagan. biden: now your jack kennedy? gerri: that was a cheap shot. bided was wrong when he claimed lower tax rates never had higher revenues. 1920's were slashed from 70% down a 20%. there rose 60%. kennedy cut across the board with the top rate down at 70%. tax revenues jump. ronald reagan proposed sweeping tax rate reduction and the result revenues up 99%. biden: we made sure we cut taxes for the middle-class. gerri: not even close to trooper release seven taxes from obamacare ball directly on the middle class. the tax for not having health care insurance. obamacare taxed the many in the name of flexible spending account in those to deduct from taxes. i could go on and on. joe biden scored big points claiming hedge funds would benefit. biden: 90% of small business america make less than $250,000. others are hedge funds making $600 billion per year that counts as the small business. gerri: hedge fund? the irs says they fall within the household of the top two brackets that the administration wants to raise taxes. and more tha
-ing deal. >> so you are jack kennedy now. >> i think biden has been to gary busy's dentist. >> stephanie: i love geraldo called him overdramatic. it is fridays you know what that means. ♪ fugelsang fugelsang, fugelsang ♪ ♪ he's so fine ♪ ♪ fugelsang, fugelsang, fugelsang ♪ >> you came up on our monitor yesterday, and everybody on the studio again went oh my god. >> stephanie: oh, he's so handsome. >> oh, that? >> stephanie: yes. >> i'm only coming on your show to hear my new theme song. [ laughter ] >> great job last night. you showed the viewers you do have a top to your head stephanie. >> stephanie: thank you. we're at the kid's table in l.a. you did a great job with the adults in new york. >> stephanie: we were saying. i haven't looked at all of the polls, but jim what is the cbs one -- 50-31 biden. and the cbs poll shows that ryan won. >> really? >> stephanie: i did catch a little morning joe on the way out. i get it john you deal with these people all the time. we're very very excited about paul ryan's big win. >> and in related news the cubs just won th
done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates -- >> now you're jack kennedy. >> awesome. >> joe biden is -- >> yeah. >> but, you know, actually, couple things there. one is the biden saying not mathematically possible over and over again which is sort of where i think a lot of the left wanted the president to go really hard on this doesn't work. it's not -- it's not amyth ma tick -- the math doesn't work. but then the jack kennedy thing -- i'm curious to know what you thought of that. some on the right thought that was really unnecessary, that was a low blow, that wasn't very statesman like. other people said put the young whipper snapper in his place. >> that moment was just systematic of the debate. joe biden versus joe biden. ryan barely showed up. he passed the threshold and did fine but if you like sneering attacks from this kind of senator, you're going to love it. >> wow. >> sneering attacks from this pompous old senator. >> but if -- >> not a joe biden fan. >> i am a joe biden fan. if you think joe biden
. >> it has never -- >> jack kennedy lower tax rates -- >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. >> ronald reagan. >> that's what you saul synap s synapses. now you're jack kennedy. >> the things that's so hard to analyze this debate, you could not watch the whole debate, you could start at the first minute and say what do you think about joe biden? and if people said, i kind of like him, then you like the debate and you thought biden won. if you said -- >> by the way, that's been said about joe biden since 1972. you either like him or you don't. >> he's joe biden. to joe's point, he's unapologetic about his joe bidenness and i think when he embodies being that, that economic populist streak and the stuff at the end that you played earlier, chris, with abortion when he talks from that sort of i'm an irish catholic, i know who the people are, that's when he's at his best. i would say some of the laughing and the derisiveness, particularly on foreign policy, i thought was a little bit off putting and a little over the top. >> i think that's right. i think it was well-said by both. you. joe klein,
in the wrong direction. >> when ryan mentioned jack kennedy lowered tax rates biden fired back saying now you're jack kennedy? >>> twitter says the debate generated 3 1/2 million tweets. biden's kennedy line generated 58,000 tweets a minute the most tweeted remark. overall the debate didn't create nearly as much traffic as the presidential debates, 10.3 million tweets. >> next debate, next tuesday when president obama and mitt romney meet at hofstra university in new york. it will be the second debate. this one will be in a town hall meeting format. abc 7 will carry it live starting at 6:00 in the evening. >>> a's fans thanking their team for a fantastic season. the comeback team that kept coming back all year long couldn't manage one more win to advance in the playoffs. tigers dominated the a's last night in the final game of their series shutting them out 6-0 fans. say it was a great ride and gave their team a standing ovation. >>> giants fans are equally proud celebrating big time after giants beat the red in cincinnati. posey's grand slam in the 5th led the giants to a 6-4 victory they ch
. >> now you're jack kennedy. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughter ] >> containing the outbreak. health officials try to locate patients exposed to a deadly form of meningitis. and the firm that supplied the contaminated shots linked to the infection may have been operating illegally. >>> mayor misconduct. an elderly mayor admits to stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars from her city but she's not going jail. this is the "cbs morning news" for friday, october 12, 2012. good morning. good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. compared to last week's presidential debate last night's face off between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan was like a shoot out at the ok corral. from the get go it was a pull no punches performance by both candidates. they squared off on everything from the economy to foreign affairs. randall pinkston is at the debate site in danville, kentucky. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. both candidates came here on a mission. congressman ryan to criticiz
fireworks. >> it has been done a couple of times. >> it has never. >> kennedy -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> reporter: they delivered stark differences on domestic and foreign policy, including how to fix the economy. >> we are going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own life. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan went after to president obama for his response to the attack in libya. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge this was a terror attack. >> you are jeopardizing the program changing from a guaranteed ben >> reporter: more heated than the first presidential -- debate. biden often laughed at right ran's arguments. >> joe biden understood he had to do what president obama failed to do last week. >> reporter: with the race still tight both president obama and mitt romney watched closely. >> the president: i thought joe biden was terrific. i could
a couple times. >> it has never. >> jack kennedy. ronald reagan. >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a bit of a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. a watch party of students turned out for this historic debate between two catholic vice presidential candidates. >> i am catholic and it's nice to hear them say they are practicing. but i think a lot of the policy they forget about their religion. >> even this campus only about 50 students showed up to watch the vice presidential debate. there were plenty of empty seats. >>> president obama watched the vice presidential debate on air force one as he was returning to washington from a campaign visit from florida. following the debate the president told reporters he thought joe biden was terrific and already called the vice president to congratulate him. mitt romney watched the debate at his hotel room in ashville, north carolina. the campaign spokesman said he called paul ryan immediately after the debate to congratulate him. on our website at ktvu.com we posted more video of last night
personal. >> jack kennedy lowered taxes, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: barb after barb. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. but i think people will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all of the four minutes then. >> reporter: biden was often dominant. maybe a little too dominant. republicans claimed he interrupted ryan 82 times. often breaking out in laughter. even when ryan was talking about iranian nukes. >> and all i have to point to -- >> reporter: biden was even all smiles when he accused ryan of basically not telling the truth. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> well, it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it is. we irish call it malarkey. >> reporter: they disagreed on virtually everything. from syria, to medicare. >> now they got a new plan. trust me. it's not going to cost you any more. folks, follow your instincts on this one. >> they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, tur
're proposing. >> it's never been done before. >> it's been done a couple of times. jack kennedy lowered tax increase growth. ronald reagan -- >> now you're jack kennedy? >> chairman of the budget committee stood his ground. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> pressured on romney's plan to reform social security and medicare, ryan didn't back down. >> they haven't put a credible solution on the table. he'll tell you about vouchers. he'll say all these things to try to scare people. >> reporter: silenced the vice president, almost by connecting the president's jobs record to biden's hometown. >> joe and i are from similar towns. he's from scranton pennsylvania. i'm from wisconsin. do you know what the unemployment rate in scranton is today? >> i sure do. >> it's 10%. >> yeah. >> do you know what it was the day you guys came in? it's 8.5%. >> yeah. >> that's the way it's going all around america. >> trying to change the subject. he may have some cleanup of his own to do today on libya. he s
done before. >> it has been done a couple times before. >> now you're jack kennedy? >> but there was an under current of mutual respect and when it ended the two families joined them on stage. in the polls they were wondering if this man did enough to restore team obama's confidence. >> 10 years ago indonesia underwent the boly bombings many torturists from pretty much all over the world. survivors have been back to bomby to commemorate the anniversary. security was tight after they were warned of attacks. >> 10 years on. and the emotions are still raw. for some, the memorys are too much to bear. looking at the photos of those who died, australian and indonesiain' leaders stayed extremists tried to sew hatred between them, but failed. >> terrorists have killed and maimed thousands around the world but they will never sundayer or displace a single ideal. we will never forget all that we lost. we will hold fast to that which remains. to our determine nation as a free people to explore the world and unheld by fear. to defeat terrorism. >> this was a tragedy that affect
ryan was full of attacks. >> there has done -- >> 0 now your jack kennedy. >> finger-pointing. >> 23 million americans are out of work today. this is not what a real recovery looks like. >> and a lot of laughs. >> i know you are under a lot of brass -- duress. >> he also challenged mitt romney the's tax plan. >> it should not be surprising geared for a guy who says 47% of people are unwilling to take responsibility. they pay more tax than gov. romney pays. >> the moderator's as the setting was more intimate. >> the jabs at one another, it felt was more personal. >> both sides are claiming victory as the waste no time heading back out on the campaign trail to rally more support. >> it is basically a tie. joe biden brought energy. and paul ryan brought the seriousness the republicans needed. >> today on the campaign trail is back to business for both of them. joe biden will have to hire with mitt romney. first, fighting for virginia. a live picture ready to get under way in richmond. scott thuman is there with a report starting at 5:00 p.m. the meantime, coming up on news at noon, if e
times. >> it has never been. >> jack kennedy, ronald reagan. >> now you are jack kennedy. [ laughter ] >> as for which candidate won the debate it seems to be a tossup with some polls giving a slight advantage to ryan. others to biden. >>> here in the bay area they held watch parties. >> ryan is staying on target. he is staying with the facts. biden is going after him. interruptions. not making himself clear. >> the president is an excellent president. he is a decent man. sometimes too decent. joe biden is showing you have to stay with the facts. >> those people obviously thought joe biden dominated the debate. republicans thought paul ryan came out ahead. no surprise there. we have posted more video of last nights debate just look for world and u.s. news tab. >>> another debate is making headlines but for very different reasons. youtube video shows two southern california lawmakers almost getting in a fight. coming up at 5:45 what was behind this heated exchange. >>> happening right now the space shuttle endeavour is on the move. it's headed from lax to its permanent home at the cal
kennedy lowered tax rates and biden quickly fired back "so now you're jack kennedy?" generated 50,000 tweets per minute. president obama and mitt romney meet next tuesday at hofstra university in new york this will be in a found hall format. abc 7 will carry it live. >>> traffic and weather together, next on abc7 morning news. live look outside now this is the embarcadero where you can see the shiney roads still a little slick. meteorologist mike nicco will have your full forecast. we'll check in with sue hall who is tracking muni metro lines not running now due to huge restaurant fire. >>> also, more problems for toyota. new consumer reports alert >>> welcome back. higher elevations to the east of milpitas and fremont right now along calaveras avenue where we have our lone shower. if you look at live doppler it is showing drying trend as the next wave of showers are going to stay in the central valley and head farther south there. for us pockets of sunshine develop this afternoon after the morning's mist and drizzle and shower activity that will be it temperatures below average i
and it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> it has never been -- >> jack kennedy lowered -- >> oh, be now you're jack kennedy? >> republicans and democrats have worked together on this. >> was that nervous laughter of the audience that you could hear? whol had to meet the threshold of competency and he did. biden scored points on substance. don't be surprised if we hear the most effective lines of attack from the president himself at next week's town hall-style debate in new york. the question is, how much was biden hurt on style. republicans did what they could to turn him into al gore, the eye rolls, sighs, that kind of thing. >> he reminded me of al gore in 2000 walking over and standing by president bush and getting in his face. >> i don't know if he thought it was a joke but he was laughing a lot. >> it was bizarre. i thought it was belittling. >> when the other side is spending their time tweeting and going after eye rolls and smirks, they are losing the debate and everybody knows it. >> the problem for republicans with the gore narrative, al gore did someth
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